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android
2014-08-13 12:20:34 UTC
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Since Rich seem to be taking a nap, this has been out two days now:
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???

http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/

http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
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Savageduck
2014-08-13 12:38:50 UTC
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not really. I am still quite happy with a DX crop sensor as found on my
D300S. If I was thinking of an FX Nikon I would lean toward a
D800/D810/D4. What would be nice would be a DX D810, but even that
wouldn't really be a D300S replacement. A DX D4S would be.
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http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
...and that is just as speculative pie-in-the-sky as any of the D300S
replacement guesses
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2014-08-13 15:45:42 UTC
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not really. I am still quite happy with a DX crop sensor as found on my
D300S. If I was thinking of an FX Nikon I would lean toward a
D800/D810/D4. What would be nice would be a DX D810, but even that
wouldn't really be a D300S replacement. A DX D4S would be.
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http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
...and that is just as speculative pie-in-the-sky as any of the D300S
replacement guesses
If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
nospam
2014-08-13 18:07:43 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.

nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.

maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.

however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
PeterN
2014-08-13 18:28:37 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Since I don't have the inside knowledge you must have, I will not
further comment on Nikon marketing strategy. However, I do know
something about marketing in general, learned from my clients and friends.
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nospam
2014-08-13 18:49:19 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Since I don't have the inside knowledge you must have, I will not
further comment on Nikon marketing strategy. However, I do know
something about marketing in general, learned from my clients and friends.
i never said i had inside knowledge.

once again, you are lying about what i said.

inside knowledge is not required. it's *very* clear to anyone with even
the slightest clue what nikon's strategy is.

if the d710/750 rumour turns out to be true, it's even more clear what
their strategy is.
PAS
2014-08-13 19:09:48 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
nospam
2014-08-13 19:26:23 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
android
2014-08-13 19:38:28 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turned be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
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2014-08-13 19:39:08 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
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nospam
2014-08-13 20:25:45 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come
out with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
canon does not define the industry.

the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h

the d300s was about $1700.

what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
android
2014-08-13 20:49:10 UTC
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come
out with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
canon does not define the industry.
No, but if Nikon decide to live in splendid isolation they might find
themselves at the deep end. Alone.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
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2014-08-13 21:20:52 UTC
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however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what
canon decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
canon does not define the industry.
No, but if Nikon decide to live in splendid isolation they might find
themselves at the deep end. Alone.
or maybe canon is barking up the wrong tree.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.

that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
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2014-08-14 04:24:37 UTC
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however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what
canon decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses
suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
canon does not define the industry.
No, but if Nikon decide to live in splendid isolation they might find
themselves at the deep end. Alone.
or maybe canon is barking up the wrong tree.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
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2014-08-14 04:56:39 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.

one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
android
2014-08-14 19:22:20 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
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2014-08-14 19:46:33 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
nope what?

i said the d3300, d5300 and d7100 are crop sensor (nobody calls it half
frame) and the d610 is full frame.
Savageduck
2014-08-14 21:00:29 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
Check for yourself.
<http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/dslr-cameras/1540/D610.html>
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Savageduck
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2014-08-15 04:59:56 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
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2014-08-15 05:11:43 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
Why do you keep referring to them as "half frame", when there is no
such size correlation between DX (APS-C) and FF?
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Savageduck
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
Why do you keep referring to them as "half frame", when there is no
such size correlation between DX (APS-C) and FF?
But there is... FX=DX*2.2
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2014-08-15 05:32:05 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
Why do you keep referring to them as "half frame", when there is no
such size correlation between DX (APS-C) and FF?
But there is... FX=DX*2.2
If you're interested in the sensors area that is...
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2014-08-15 12:46:11 UTC
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it

<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>

<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.

<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.
I don't think so... The Leica produces RWL raw and the cheapoo Pana
RW2!!!
Ergo: Different firmvares...
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.
look at the advanced specs. There seems to be some differences.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.
look at the advanced specs. There seems to be some differences.
In the Snapsort site there are gapping holes in the full specs for the
Leica, and where they note a minor difference it is just that, a minot
difference which makes little to no difference in the function and
operation of either camera. They are the same camera with one dressed
by Armani and the other wearing Dockers.

The dpreview site makes a better and fuller spec comparison;
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is
a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Other than the price and a different body, it's the same camera.
look at the advanced specs. There seems to be some differences.
And they are?
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Read the comparison. There are some subtle differences, and debating
whether they are the same camera is pointless. My friend go the Leica,
not the panasonic.
If you guys want to debate his motives, go ahead, I see no point is
further participation.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Read the comparison. There are some subtle differences, and debating
whether they are the same camera is pointless. My friend go the Leica,
not the panasonic.
If you guys want to debate his motives, go ahead, I see no point is
further participation.
You brought up this camera which is nothing more than prestige
camouflage on a pretty good compact made by Leica's Japanese business
partner.

The subjective comparison on the first page of the Snapsort site you
gave are meaningless.
Three of the four items listed are identical just shuffled about a bit.
Then for the Panasonic it lists; "external flash better lighting"
because both have a hot shoe. Both have the same feature.
For the Leica is listed; "Almost no delay when powering up 750ms
startup delay".

Whoopeee!

Now read the specifications ant tell us which of those uncannily
similar specifications convinced your pal that he would look better
shooting with the Leica labelled Lumix than the Panasonic version.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy

They

are the same camera with a big price difference for a prestige label.

That is like buying a Ford Focus and slapping a $8 Mercedes star on it
and bumping the price $20K.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dit
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Read the comparison. There are some subtle differences, and debating
whether they are the same camera is pointless. My friend go the Leica,
not the panasonic.
If you guys want to debate his motives, go ahead, I see no point is
further participation.
n
You brought up this camera which is nothing more than prestige
camouflage on a pretty good compact made by Leica's Japanese business
partner.
The subjective comparison on the first page of the Snapsort site you
gave are meaningless.
Three of the four items listed are identical just shuffled about a bit.
Then for the Panasonic it lists; "external flash better lighting"
because both have a hot shoe. Both have the same feature.
For the Leica is listed; "Almost no delay when powering up 750ms
startup delay".
Whoopeee!
Now read the specifications ant tell us which of those uncannily
similar specifications convinced your pal that he would look better
shooting with the Leica labelled Lumix than the Panasonic version.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&pr
oducts=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
They
are the same camera with a big price difference for a prestige label.
That is like buying a Ford Focus and slapping a $8 Mercedes star on it
and bumping the price $20K.
That's much easier these days since Mercedes has skipped that little
ornament on most models. It's things like that that make fraud easy!
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_ed
it
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_
LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Read the comparison. There are some subtle differences, and debating
whether they are the same camera is pointless. My friend go the Leica,
not the panasonic.
If you guys want to debate his motives, go ahead, I see no point is
further participation.
Feel free to enlighten the class on the differences. This is not about
the money. Who cares? It's about the subtel inerworkings of the imaging.
Some if want's to learn
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_ed
it
ion_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_
LX
7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Different firmware???
Read the comparison. There are some subtle differences, and debating
whether they are the same camera is pointless. My friend go the Leica,
not the panasonic.
If you guys want to debate his motives, go ahead, I see no point is
further participation.
Feel free to enlighten the class on the differences. This is not about
the money. Who cares? It's about the subtel inerworkings of the imaging.
Some if some folks want's to learn
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price

http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price
http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
Not my problem.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>

That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
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There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price
http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
Not my problem.
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
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PeterN
2014-08-19 02:43:35 UTC
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You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
That is his issue. When my wife wants a new refridgerater even though
our current one is fine, I really don't care. It makes her happy. No
reason to question a friend on how he spends his money. He will not
starve. I don't know whether I would make that choice.

BTW I think the Panasonic is a fine camera.
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Post by Savageduck
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
That is his issue. When my wife wants a new refridgerater even though
our current one is fine, I really don't care. It makes her happy. No
reason to question a friend on how he spends his money.
However, there is no harm in asking; "Why on Earth woul you have paid ±
$700 for that Leica, when you could have got the same camera, with the
same specifications in the Panasonic for $300 less?"
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He will not starve.
So what? It is a pretentious buy. If he had bought a pure Leica such as
the "X Vario", or even spring for an "M", I would be less critical.
Since he obviously has the financial resources to do so.
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-X/Leica-X-Vario>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-E>
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I don't know whether I would make that choice.
My bank balance and my pension have already made that choice for me.
Gadget envy not withstanding, I await a lottery win.
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BTW I think the Panasonic is a fine camera.
It remains identical in specification and function to the Leica, ...or
is it the other way around?
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Savageduck
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You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
That is his issue. When my wife wants a new refridgerater even though
our current one is fine, I really don't care. It makes her happy. No
reason to question a friend on how he spends his money.
However, there is no harm in asking; "Why on Earth woul you have paid ±
$700 for that Leica, when you could have got the same camera, with the
same specifications in the Panasonic for $300 less?"
Post by PeterN
He will not starve.
So what? It is a pretentious buy. If he had bought a pure Leica such as
the "X Vario", or even spring for an "M", I would be less critical.
Since he obviously has the financial resources to do so.
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-X/Leica-X-Vario>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-E>
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I don't know whether I would make that choice.
My bank balance and my pension have already made that choice for me.
Gadget envy not withstanding, I await a lottery win.
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BTW I think the Panasonic is a fine camera.
It remains identical in specification and function to the Leica, ...or
is it the other way around?
Not quite identical, if android is correct when he reported "The Leica
produces RWL raw and the cheapoo Pana RW2!!!" The firmware is
different in some way, even if only to produce different raw file
names.

What else is different?
Enquiring minds want to know.
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Eric Stevens
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You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
That is his issue. When my wife wants a new refridgerater even though
our current one is fine, I really don't care. It makes her happy. No
reason to question a friend on how he spends his money.
However, there is no harm in asking; "Why on Earth woul you have paid ±
$700 for that Leica, when you could have got the same camera, with the
same specifications in the Panasonic for $300 less?"
Post by PeterN
He will not starve.
So what? It is a pretentious buy. If he had bought a pure Leica such as
the "X Vario", or even spring for an "M", I would be less critical.
Since he obviously has the financial resources to do so.
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-X/Leica-X-Vario>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-E>
Post by PeterN
I don't know whether I would make that choice.
My bank balance and my pension have already made that choice for me.
Gadget envy not withstanding, I await a lottery win.
Post by PeterN
BTW I think the Panasonic is a fine camera.
It remains identical in specification and function to the Leica, ...or
is it the other way around?
People who buy the Leicasonics are like people who bought Cadillac
Cimarrons (a rebadged Chevy Cavalier with some different trim) and
deluded themselves that they were buying Cadillacs.

It's a smart move by Leica--the Leicasonics are good equipment and
getting more than double the price just by changing a few stickers is
brilliant marketing, but it shows just how gullible the status-conscious
can be.
Eric Stevens
2014-08-19 23:54:25 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Savageduck
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
That is his issue. When my wife wants a new refridgerater even though
our current one is fine, I really don't care. It makes her happy. No
reason to question a friend on how he spends his money.
However, there is no harm in asking; "Why on Earth woul you have paid ±
$700 for that Leica, when you could have got the same camera, with the
same specifications in the Panasonic for $300 less?"
Post by PeterN
He will not starve.
So what? It is a pretentious buy. If he had bought a pure Leica such as
the "X Vario", or even spring for an "M", I would be less critical.
Since he obviously has the financial resources to do so.
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-X/Leica-X-Vario>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-E>
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I don't know whether I would make that choice.
My bank balance and my pension have already made that choice for me.
Gadget envy not withstanding, I await a lottery win.
Post by PeterN
BTW I think the Panasonic is a fine camera.
It remains identical in specification and function to the Leica, ...or
is it the other way around?
People who buy the Leicasonics are like people who bought Cadillac
Cimarrons (a rebadged Chevy Cavalier with some different trim) and
deluded themselves that they were buying Cadillacs.
It's a smart move by Leica--the Leicasonics are good equipment and
getting more than double the price just by changing a few stickers is
brilliant marketing, but it shows just how gullible the status-conscious
can be.
I would still like to know what, if anything, is different about their
firmware.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
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There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price
http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
Not my problem.
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
$500 i he shopped at BH!
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
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There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price
http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
Not my problem.
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
$500 i he shopped at BH!
--
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_e
dition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix
_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
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Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Same camera, different price
http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7/specs
Not my problem.
You brought this particular Leica into this war zone, and initiated
another sub-thread skirmish. So it is your problem. What specifically
was it you pal liked about this Leica that he felt compelled to spend a
stupid amount of extra $$$.
$500 if he shopped at BH!
--
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http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>

That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are
paying a hefty price for a little red nameplate.

They are only superficially different cameras due to physical
appearance. Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference
is the $398 list price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying a
hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical appearance.
Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is the $398 list
price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
Yes, superficially different. The only real differences are the red dot
and, as Android pointed out, different firmware yielding a different RAW
format.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying a
hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical appearance.
Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is the $398 list
price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
Yes, superficially different. The only real differences are the red dot
and, as Android pointed out, different firmware yielding a different RAW
format.
More importantly, I was going to text you this evening. We had dinner at
the Cooperage Inn, and were thinking of Snowflake. My wife is not
allowed sugar or anything dairy, and I really didn't need it.

We had a cute young waitress. I asked for a female lobster and she made
the mistake of asking how you tell the difference. I told her she was
old enough to know the difference between a male and a female. Wow! did
she ever blush.
--
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those
are
half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you
usually
use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's
limitations.
I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying a
hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical appearance.
Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is the $398 list
price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
Yes, superficially different. The only real differences are the red dot
and, as Android pointed out, different firmware yielding a different RAW
format.
More importantly, I was going to text you this evening. We had dinner at
the Cooperage Inn, and were thinking of Snowflake. My wife is not allowed
sugar or anything dairy, and I really didn't need it.
We had a cute young waitress. I asked for a female lobster and she made
the mistake of asking how you tell the difference. I told her she was old
enough to know the difference between a male and a female. Wow! did she
ever blush.
My wife and I like the Cooperage Inn, it's a nice place. And I do like
lobster, it's the only seafood I eat. Topping it off with a visit to
Snowflakes makes for a great night.
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2014-08-19 18:18:59 UTC
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More importantly, I was going to text you this evening. We had dinner at
the Cooperage Inn, and were thinking of Snowflake. My wife is not allowed
sugar or anything dairy, and I really didn't need it.
We had a cute young waitress. I asked for a female lobster and she made
the mistake of asking how you tell the difference. I told her she was old
enough to know the difference between a male and a female. Wow! did she
ever blush.
My wife and I like the Cooperage Inn, it's a nice place. And I do like
lobster, it's the only seafood I eat. Topping it off with a visit to
Snowflakes makes for a great night.
The Coop is our go to place when Tanger Mall is on the itenerary. But,
as I said before Snowflake omes in third behind McNulty's and Magic
Fountain.
Bsck to photography, there is still two osprey in the nest just before
East Marion, on the South side of the road, across from the DEC boat ramp.
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More importantly, I was going to text you this evening. We had dinner at
the Cooperage Inn, and were thinking of Snowflake. My wife is not allowed
sugar or anything dairy, and I really didn't need it.
We had a cute young waitress. I asked for a female lobster and she made
the mistake of asking how you tell the difference. I told her she was old
enough to know the difference between a male and a female. Wow! did she
ever blush.
My wife and I like the Cooperage Inn, it's a nice place. And I do like
lobster, it's the only seafood I eat. Topping it off with a visit to
Snowflakes makes for a great night.
The Coop is our go to place when Tanger Mall is on the itenerary. But, as
I said before Snowflake omes in third behind McNulty's and Magic Fountain.
Bsck to photography, there is still two osprey in the nest just before
East Marion, on the South side of the road, across from the DEC boat ramp.
I've seen the osprey there. Right before you get to the nest, there is a
side road on your right. Years ago, I took a turn down there one day and
found a huge snapping turtle in the middle of the road

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The next time you're at the Tanger Mall, stop into the Movado store and ask
for Judah, that's my younger son. He works there, he's finishing up at Suny
Stony Brook and still waiting to be called into the NYPD.
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2014-08-19 20:09:19 UTC
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More importantly, I was going to text you this evening. We had dinner at
the Cooperage Inn, and were thinking of Snowflake. My wife is not allowed
sugar or anything dairy, and I really didn't need it.
We had a cute young waitress. I asked for a female lobster and she made
the mistake of asking how you tell the difference. I told her she was old
enough to know the difference between a male and a female. Wow! did she
ever blush.
My wife and I like the Cooperage Inn, it's a nice place. And I do like
lobster, it's the only seafood I eat. Topping it off with a visit to
Snowflakes makes for a great night.
The Coop is our go to place when Tanger Mall is on the itenerary. But, as
I said before Snowflake omes in third behind McNulty's and Magic Fountain.
Bsck to photography, there is still two osprey in the nest just before
East Marion, on the South side of the road, across from the DEC boat ramp.
I've seen the osprey there. Right before you get to the nest, there is a
side road on your right. Years ago, I took a turn down there one day and
found a huge snapping turtle in the middle of the road
http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Animals/Animals/i-GbW7JFL/0/L/IMG06058-L.jpg
http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Animals/Animals/i-25GWR4X/0/L/IMG06051-L.jpg
Those guys can be really mean, and they can reach a lot further than you
might expect.
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The next time you're at the Tanger Mall, stop into the Movado store and ask
for Judah, that's my younger son. He works there, he's finishing up at Suny
Stony Brook and still waiting to be called into the NYPD.
I stay away from that store. My wife has enough Movado watches and I
have two Movados, plus two cheap titanium Skagens. I can only wear
watches that have either surgical steel, or titanium bands. I don't know
about you, but I would rather have a new lens than another watch. I am
waiting to see if the Tamron 150-600 lives up to its hype.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500?
or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which
have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One
is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_ed
ition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_
LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
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There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying a
hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical appearance.
Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is the $398 list
price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&
products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
Yes, superficially different. The only real differences are the red dot
and, as Android pointed out, different firmware yielding a different RAW
format.
It's android with the a in lowercase! ;-p
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
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Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon
One is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's
limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
That's
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the same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.
Post by PeterN
There are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying
a hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical
appearance. Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is
the $398 list price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy
As I said to PAS, read the advanced specs. There is a difference in
frame rate, and some other subtle differences.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for
$1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300,
which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer
features
than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a
full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon
One is
but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's
limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>

That's

the
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same camera as the Panasonic DHC-LX7
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880960-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7k_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
Nope.

There
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are a lot of similarities, but they are two different cameras.
<http://snapsort.com/compare/Leica-D-Lux-6-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX7>
Read the specs and state which spec is different in each. You are paying
a hefty price for a little red nameplate.
They are only superficially different cameras due to physical
appearance. Under the skin they are identical. The biggest difference is
the $398 list price difference for essentially the same performance.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=leica_dlux6&products=panasonic_dmclx7>
or
http://tinyurl.com/n5bfjwy



As
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I said to PAS, read the advanced specs.
I did.
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There is a difference in frame rate, and some other subtle differences.
Somehow I don't particularly trust the Snapsort spec list (which is
incomplete) which reports 2fps for the Leica and 11fps for the Lumix.
They don't even say if that is for RAW of JPEG.

Dpreview shows the Leica at 11fps the same as the Lumix.
<http://www.dpreview.com/products/leica/compacts/leica_dlux6/specifications>

Spec for spec they are the same camera down to weight & dimensions.
They even have the same auto shooting modes.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
Doubt what, that the Panasonic is cheaper? B&H lists the Panasonic DMC-
LX7 for $347.99 vs 699.00 for the D-LUX 6, which puts it a good deal
more than "a few cents cheaper". Or do you doubt that it's a Panasonic?
If so, explain why the specifications are identical and most of the
accessories including the external EVF are interchangeable between them.
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the nikon d610 is $1900 at b&h
the d300s was about $1700.
what if nikon comes out with a full frame camera for $1500? or
less?
Than it would have less features...
obviously.
that didn't stop nikon from making a d3300 and d5300, which have
fewer
features than a d610 or d7100.
Those are HF (half frame) cameras...
the d3300 has fewer features than a d5300 which has fewer features than
a d7100, all of which are crop sensor cameras.
one of the features that they all don't have over the d610 is a full
frame sensor.
Nope! They are half frame...
Actually the D610 is FF.
---
Off course. I thought you were referring to the Dxx00's. Those are half
frame, Canon x0D and xx0D and M are half frame too. Olympus and
Panasonic are quarter frame... I'm not sure of what the Nikon One is but
Mini. ;-p
I tested one. IMHO it is a POS.
It most certainly must be most limited compered to what you usually use.
OTOH, surely it can be useful if you are aware of it's limitations. I
still like my Ixuses... ;-)
One of my frinds go the Leica Dlux and really likes it.
That's a PanaLeica right? The Panasonic variant is usually a few cent's
cheaper... If someones interested.
I doubt it
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1036245-REG/leica_18134_d_lux_6_edition_100.html>
<http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Compact-Cameras/Leica-D-Lux-6>
Doubt what, that the Panasonic is cheaper? B&H lists the Panasonic DMC-
LX7 for $347.99 vs 699.00 for the D-LUX 6, which puts it a good deal
more than "a few cents cheaper". Or do you doubt that it's a Panasonic?
If so, explain why the specifications are identical and most of the
accessories including the external EVF are interchangeable between them.
My friend got the Leica, not the Panosonic
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
You have been double posting. Just thought I would let you know.
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
as i said, only time will tell if it's a good strategy, and that will
be based on what *consumers* do.
And that would in turn be based on what kind of camera a 7d mark II
would be.
You have been double posting. Just thought I would let you know.
Nope. Superseding. There are typos that shift the meaning or look too
annoying...
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If Nikon has no intention of replacing the D300S and Canon does come out
with a 7D MkII then maybe Nikon will rethink that strategy.
or maybe they won't.
nikon's strategy is clearly pushing fx.
maybe that will turn out to be a good strategy and maybe it won't. only
time will tell.
however, one thing is certain, it isn't going to depend on what canon
decides to do.
Don't be so sure. There are times when companies react to what their
competitor's do. If they don't, they can find their businesses suffering.
Don't argue with nosense. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.

In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.

i never said i know more than anyone else.

that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
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that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
Post by nospam
that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
are you going to make borscht?
android
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
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that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
$5? ;-)
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
Post by nospam
that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
$5? ;-)
A dozen clams and a beer.
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
Post by nospam
that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
$5? ;-)
A dozen clams and a beer.
Yummy!
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Don't argue with nospam. He has more knowledge than anybody on every
subject.
the fact that you keep altering my username shows just how empty your
claims are.
i never said i know more than anyone else.
YOu just act that way.
Post by nospam
that's more of your lies.
In the rare event he doesn't know, he will make it up and accuse you of
lying, or moving the goalposts.
actually that's what you do.
Thank you. I just won a beet that you would say just that.
$5? ;-)
A dozen clams and a beer.
Yummy!
It's the most useful thing nospam has done since I joined the group. ;-p
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.

Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
Wouldn't the X-T1 be more you? Nice 'n retro and weather sealed?
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
Wouldn't the X-T1 be more you? Nice 'n retro and weather sealed?
Performance wise there is little difference between the two, and I have
always had a thing for VF cameras. However, economically it makes more
sense to just get a D7100 body.
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that.
For online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
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2014-08-13 15:44:22 UTC
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that. For
online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
Who "needs" anything more than a small P&S for that purpose.
While the largest prints I do are 12 x 18, I aolso do extreme crops.

<Loading Image...>

Is a crop from this:

<Loading Image...>

Yes the above is rather extreme, and was monly done as an experiment, I
enjoy image mining.
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Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-ca
me
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that. For
online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
Who "needs" anything more than a small P&S for that purpose.
While the largest prints I do are 12 x 18, I aolso do extreme crops.
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/horn.jpg>
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/drive%20in%20the%20park.jpg>
Does the dude have the white sides of the spears turned inwards or is he
a cheapskate? ;-p
Post by PeterN
Yes the above is rather extreme, and was monly done as an experiment, I
enjoy image mining.
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http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
android
2014-08-13 18:59:07 UTC
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Post by Savageduck
Post by android
Post by Savageduck
Post by PeterN
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-ca
me
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that. For
online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
Who "needs" anything more than a small P&S for that purpose.
While the largest prints I do are 12 x 18, I aolso do extreme crops.
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/horn.jpg>
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/drive%20in%20the%20park.jpg>
Does the dude have the white sides of the spares turned inwards or is he
a cheapskate? ;-p
Post by PeterN
Yes the above is rather extreme, and was monly done as an experiment, I
enjoy image mining.
--
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
android
2014-08-13 18:47:12 UTC
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Post by Savageduck
Post by android
Post by Savageduck
Post by PeterN
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-cam
e
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that.
For online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
It depend's on your work flow. Peter obviously cherish his pixels and I
appreciate that.
--
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
Savageduck
2014-08-13 19:22:32 UTC
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Post by android
Post by Savageduck
Post by android
Post by Savageduck
Post by PeterN
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-cam
e
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
That is a reason I have been seriously considering the Fujifilm X-Pro1.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
I've heard good things about it, but I am not ready right now.
No you would drop half of the resolution power. What about the Sony a7r?
It has the same sensor as your D800e. Some folks caution that there are
vibrations at normal shutterspeeds that eats some of those 36MP though.
Haven't checked that last thing...
...and the question is, who really needs 36-40MP. Ultimately those fat
files can be a PIA to work with. I prefer an 18-26MB range. My largest
prints are 13''x19'' and if I need larger I have ways of doing that.
For online sharing/display 36MP is overkill when 10MP does just fine.
More isn't always better.
It depend's on your work flow. Peter obviously cherish his pixels and I
appreciate that.
To each their own. ;-)
--
Regards,

Savageduck
Sandman
2014-08-13 13:58:11 UTC
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Post by PeterN
Post by android
Since Rich seem to be taking a nap, this has been out two days
now: Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX
D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Any support for this claim?
--
Sandman[.net]
David Taylor
2014-08-13 15:39:03 UTC
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Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
I can recommend the Panasonic GX7, and there is a good range of lenses
available from multiple manufacturers for micro-four-thirds. Nice
viewfinder, too.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
PeterN
2014-08-13 15:50:41 UTC
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Post by David Taylor
[]
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They
are much lighter.
I can recommend the Panasonic GX7, and there is a good range of lenses
available from multiple manufacturers for micro-four-thirds. Nice
viewfinder, too.
Thanks, but it does not have either the sensor, nor lens capabality I
like, (wheter I need tht quality, or not,) and it has too much DOF for
the type of macro shots I do.

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PeterN
Sandman
2014-08-13 15:45:34 UTC
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Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless.
They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R and you have as many
pixels as in your D800, but no phase detection AF as in the A7 (and D800).

A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well, albeit in
manual focus mode.
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Sandman[.net]
PeterN
2014-08-13 16:07:43 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless.
They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R and you have as many
pixels as in your D800, but no phase detection AF as in the A7 (and D800).
A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well, albeit in
manual focus mode.
The best adaptor is not full functioning.
(unless things have changed since I last looked. The best appears to be
the Novoflex, but even that has faults. I will wait.
--
PeterN
Sandman
2014-08-13 16:24:58 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be
mirroless. They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R and you have
as many pixels as in your D800, but no phase detection AF as in
the A7 (and D800).
A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well,
albeit in manual focus mode.
The best adaptor is not full functioning. (unless things have
changed since I last looked. The best appears to be the Novoflex,
but even that has faults. I will wait.
Not sure what faults that should be. I use a pretty cheap adapter and it
works flawlessly. What is it you're missing?
--
Sandman[.net]
PeterN
2014-08-13 17:25:18 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by Sandman
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be
mirroless. They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R and you have
as many pixels as in your D800, but no phase detection AF as in
the A7 (and D800).
A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well,
albeit in manual focus mode.
The best adaptor is not full functioning. (unless things have
changed since I last looked. The best appears to be the Novoflex,
but even that has faults. I will wait.
Not sure what faults that should be. I use a pretty cheap adapter and it
works flawlessly. What is it you're missing?
Which brand. I saw several, with a wide price range.
Is it full functioning, including VR ?
--
PeterN
Sandman
2014-08-13 17:43:18 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by Sandman
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely
be mirroless. They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R
and you have as many pixels as in your D800, but no phase
detection AF as in the A7 (and D800).
A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well,
albeit in manual focus mode.
The best adaptor is not full functioning. (unless things have
changed since I last looked. The best appears to be the
Novoflex, but even that has faults. I will wait.
Not sure what faults that should be. I use a pretty cheap adapter
and it works flawlessly. What is it you're missing?
Which brand. I saw several, with a wide price range. Is it full
functioning, including VR ?
There are no full functioning adapters from E-mount to to F-mount, you get
manual focus and no lens communication, so no VR.

Is that the "faults" you were in reference to?
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Sandman[.net]
PeterN
2014-08-13 18:12:43 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by Sandman
Post by Sandman
Post by PeterN
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely
be mirroless. They are much lighter.
I love the Sony A7, recommend it highly. Get the A7R
and you have as many pixels as in your D800, but no phase
detection AF as in the A7 (and D800).
A cheap adapter will put all your Nikon glass on it as well,
albeit in manual focus mode.
The best adaptor is not full functioning. (unless things have
changed since I last looked. The best appears to be the
Novoflex, but even that has faults. I will wait.
Not sure what faults that should be. I use a pretty cheap adapter
and it works flawlessly. What is it you're missing?
Which brand. I saw several, with a wide price range. Is it full
functioning, including VR ?
There are no full functioning adapters from E-mount to to F-mount, you get
manual focus and no lens communication, so no VR.
Is that the "faults" you were in reference to?
I do a lot of work in manual. I have heard reports of infinity errors.
At thsi point I have no reason to rush. I will see what comes out.
--
PeterN
PAS
2014-08-13 15:48:03 UTC
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Post by PeterN
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/the-upcoming-nikon-full-frame-dslr-came
ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://tinyurl.com/n7gw8h3
It's still only a rumor. Sometimes Nikon plants rumors as part of
development strategy.
Maybe. but my next camera, if any, will most likely be mirroless. They are
much lighter.
I tried that, getting myself a Sony A7 but I still prefer to use my DSLRs so
I sold it off. I have an M4/3 Panasonic that I picked up really cheap and I
use it from time-to-time but my DSLRs are still my top choice.
Sandman
2014-08-13 13:13:05 UTC
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Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)

Savageduck
Re: Nikon should (should have) made the D9300 40MP
05/18/2014 <2014051808424071950-***@REMOVESPAMmecom>

"My intuition tells me that any such D300S successor is probably
going to be a DX DSLR, and is likely to be named D400"
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android
2014-08-13 13:24:08 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)
I know that! He better stack up them boxes of surplus D300s that he can
scavenge from the net or get stuck with that pesky consumer D7300!
The D400 is definitely a UFO!!!

With the D7x0 and a good teleconverter he could keep his crop glass till
he dies! ;-p
Post by Sandman
Savageduck
Re: Nikon should (should have) made the D9300 40MP
"My intuition tells me that any such D300S successor is probably
going to be a DX DSLR, and is likely to be named D400"
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Savageduck
2014-08-13 13:40:15 UTC
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Post by android
Post by Sandman
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)
I know that! He better stack up them boxes of surplus D300s that he can
scavenge from the net or get stuck with that pesky consumer D7300!
The D400 is definitely a UFO!!!
With the D7x0 and a good teleconverter he could keep his crop glass till
he dies! ;-p
Strangely enough I agree. If the D300S successor never materializes,
which is most likely, then a D7100 body would suffice. My current D300S
is 4½ years old now and is still more than I need and working fine. I
don't think I would replace it with one from used or surplus bins
unless the deal was too good to refuse.

Like Peter I am actually looking in another direction.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/index.html
--
Regards,

Savageduck
Savageduck
2014-08-13 13:27:16 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by android
Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)
That would work as far as naming convention goes. I certainly wouldn't
want a 40 MB DX sensor. A sensor size of 18MB-26MB would work for me
and wouldn't compromise frame rate. The important thing is the D300S
successor shouldn't be FF those exist already in the D800(E) & D4S.
Post by Sandman
Savageduck
Re: Nikon should (should have) made the D9300 40MP
"My intuition tells me that any such D300S successor is probably
going to be a DX DSLR, and is likely to be named D400"
--
Regards,

Savageduck
Sandman
2014-08-13 14:05:56 UTC
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Post by Savageduck
Post by Sandman
Post by android
Since Rich seem to be taking a nap, this has been out two days
now: Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX
D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)
That would work as far as naming convention goes.
Nah, D*** is FX only these days, just like D* :-D
Post by Savageduck
I certainly wouldn't want a 40 MB DX sensor. A sensor size of 18MB-26MB
would work for me and wouldn't compromise frame rate. The important thing
is the D300S successor shouldn't be FF those exist already in the D800(E)
& D4S.
Then I suppose the supposed D9300 is the D300 successor :) Voila!
--
Sandman[.net]
Savageduck
2014-08-13 14:31:24 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by Savageduck
Post by Sandman
Post by android
Since Rich seem to be taking a nap, this has been out two days
now: Is this what SavageDuck and others been waiting for? A FX
D300???
Not quite, Savageduck is expecting a DX D400, actually :)
That would work as far as naming convention goes.
Nah, D*** is FX only these days, just like D* :-D
We have already spun that debate right into the ground. There is little
point in resurrecting it.
Post by Sandman
Post by Savageduck
I certainly wouldn't want a 40 MB DX sensor. A sensor size of 18MB-26MB
would work for me and wouldn't compromise frame rate. The important thing
is the D300S successor shouldn't be FF those exist already in the D800(E)
& D4S.
Then I suppose the supposed D9300 is the D300 successor :) Voila!
...and as we discovered back in April the D9300 is about as mythical as
the D400 and is yet to materialize in any form.
<http://petapixel.com/2014/04/02/rumor-nikon-d9300-way-mythical-d300s-successor/>
--
Regards,

Savageduck
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