It's here: The Nikon 750

We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

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2014-09-12 11:41:47 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S.
https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

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android

2014-09-12 11:56:42 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S.
https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

"For now..." !!!

You're weakening. ;-p

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2014-09-13 16:30:55 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D

If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No need to
"prove" it to anyone.

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Savageduck

2014-09-13 17:48:24 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No need to
"prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something else
bugging you?

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Savageduck

2014-09-13 23:12:07 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No need to
"prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something else
bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image with any
current smart phone camera.
https://db.tt/GcMGinUz
https://db.tt/XojheULg

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Sandman

2014-09-14 09:13:20 UTC

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you.
No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something
else bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image with
any current smart phone camera.

Then you think wrong. Here are some amazing landscape photos taken with an
iPhone:

<https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=landscape&cm=apple%2Fiphone_5s>

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/GcMGinUz

Not sure why you think this image requires a D300S?

<https://www.flickr.com/photos/subajogu/11043798804>

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/XojheULg

Ah, you think to be in reference to the fact that a SLR has access to zoom
lenses. Taking amazing shots of airplanes isn't unique to SLR's though:

<https://www.flickr.com/photos/cjhawkins1961/14854638094>

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android

2014-09-14 09:31:55 UTC

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you.
No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something
else bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image with
any current smart phone camera.

Then you think wrong. Here are some amazing landscape photos taken with an

I think that he referred to PIFs...

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android

2014-09-14 09:33:26 UTC

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you.
No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something
else bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image with
any current smart phone camera.

Then you think wrong. Here are some amazing landscape photos taken with an

I think that he referred to PIF...

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Savageduck

2014-09-14 13:26:01 UTC

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you.
No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something
else bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image with
any current smart phone camera.

Then you think wrong. Here are some amazing landscape photos taken with an
<https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=landscape&cm=apple%2Fiphone_5s>

Those are a selection of some very good landscape shots and are
examples of what can be done with an iP5s. However, that excellent work
not withstanding, it is yet to become a replacement for a dedicated
camera. You haven't dumped your D800E or your Sony in favor or your
iP5S have you? My iP5S is my camera of last resort not my primary.

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/GcMGinUz

Not sure why you think this image requires a D300S?

It doesn't require a D300S, but shooting motor sport does require a
camera capable of a decent frame rate, good exposure control, lens
selection, and be able to capture moment which are spontaneous and
fleeting on the track. While an iPhone might be able to capture some of
those action shots, it is not going to do it easily.
Perhaps you should spend a day at a track and try to shoot a few cars
at high speed with your iP5S.

Post by Sandman
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/subajogu/11043798804>

...and that is not much more than a snapshot of questionable quality.

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/XojheULg

Ah, you think to be in reference to the fact that a SLR has access to zoom
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/cjhawkins1961/14854638094>

Nice static shot. Now go to an air show and shoot a few low level, high
speed passes with an iP5S. Most of what you come home with will be
unusable, some will be snapshot souvenirs of the event, and perhaps
there might be one or two magnificent accidental captures.

While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

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android

2014-09-14 16:06:10 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!

http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

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2014-09-14 16:22:12 UTC

Post by android

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.

That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone camera.
It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the camera roll in
the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a viewfinder & UI control
device with its own sensor and memory card. Also it can be used without
the phone, so the iOS or Android phone is an accessory for the camera.

BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

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android

2014-09-14 16:47:45 UTC

Post by android

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone camera.
It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the camera roll in
the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a viewfinder & UI control
device with its own sensor and memory card. Also it can be used without
the phone, so the iOS or Android phone is an accessory for the camera.

I was thinking of that Ricoh GXR then I saw it... ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/prt4pdv

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Savageduck

2014-09-14 17:09:53 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone camera.
It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the camera roll in
the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a viewfinder & UI control
device with its own sensor and memory card. Also it can be used without
the phone, so the iOS or Android phone is an accessory for the camera.

I was thinking of that Ricoh GXR then I saw it... ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/prt4pdv

Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not
considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S.
I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C
sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/

Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine.

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Savageduck

android

2014-09-14 17:23:32 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a good
camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a dedicated
DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone camera.
It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the camera roll in
the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a viewfinder & UI control
device with its own sensor and memory card. Also it can be used without
the phone, so the iOS or Android phone is an accessory for the camera.

I was thinking of that Ricoh GXR then I saw it... ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/prt4pdv

Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not
considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S.
I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C
sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/
Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine.

The Fuji would give you a boost in resolution... ;-| But it is snappy
enough for you? ;-p

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nospam

2014-09-14 17:25:30 UTC

Post by Savageduck
Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not
considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S.
I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an APS-C
sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens system.
http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/
Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine.

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?

because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

android

2014-09-14 17:45:30 UTC

Post by nospam

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?
because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

I'd say that he should shoot with the d750 in crop mode!

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Savageduck

2014-09-14 19:10:52 UTC

Post by nospam

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?

Mainly at air shows.

Post by nospam
because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

...and that is a consideration.

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android

2014-09-14 19:31:14 UTC

Post by nospam

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?

Mainly at air shows.

Post by nospam
because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

...and that is a consideration.

You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old
machine for future use!

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Savageduck

2014-09-14 19:40:19 UTC

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?

Mainly at air shows.

Post by nospam
because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

...and that is a consideration.

You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old
machine for future use!

Something to think about.

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Savageduck

android

2014-09-14 19:47:30 UTC

how often do you push the limits of the buffer in the d300s?

Mainly at air shows.

Post by nospam
because if it's not often, a d7100 is a big step up (as is the d7000)
in every way. the buffer is the only limitation.

...and that is a consideration.

You could acquire one of those and save valuable clicks on yer old
machine for future use!

Something to think about.

It sure is Sir! That's what I would consider, searching through my heart
if was sunk into the half frame format. I surely would!!! ;-)

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Sandman

2014-09-14 18:22:24 UTC

Post by android
I was thinking of that Ricoh GXR then I saw it... ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/prt4pdv

Regardless of your poking and Jonas's snide remarks, I am not
considering a FF camera, unless I could get a bargain price on a D4S.

Eh, I couldn't care less about what camera you use, duck. As I said in my
first post - if you're happy with your gear - more power to you!

Post by Savageduck
I am seriously considering the Fujifilm X-E2 which gives me an
APS-C sensor in a compact mirrorless body, with an exchangeable lens
system. http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e2/en/
Until I take the leap and buy that system, my D300S will do just fine.

As it should - and hopefully you have better pics to show for it than the
one you posted when stating the reason the first time around. The D300S
gives you all kind of control that many low-end cameras won't give youy.
Shallow depth of field, long exposures, wide range of lenses from super
wideangle to amazing zooms, IR conversions, super macro and so on. Things
that can't be done with any camera, and certainly not an iPhone.

My point was that you used a pretty standard any-camera shot to give
credence to your claim that you needn't upgrade to the D750 from the D300S,
and I just think that notion would have been more solid had the shot been
something a bit more remarkable, and not something you can shoot with
Instagram. :)

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David Taylor

2014-09-15 05:50:53 UTC

On 14/09/2014 18:09, Savageduck wrote:
[]

Lack of 10:1 zoom would be a deal-breaker for me with that camera, and
the micro-four-thirds gives yet more size reduction. But would any
mirrorless camera be fast enough for motor racing or air-show shots?

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Savageduck

2014-09-15 06:40:20 UTC

On 2014-09-15 05:50:53 +0000, David Taylor

What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera?

The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3.

Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of
7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be
workable in action situations on the track, or at an air show.

While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with
should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/>

The

kit lens is an 18-55mm.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/>

However,

the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/>

Add

to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/>

From

what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with.

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David Taylor

2014-09-15 07:22:04 UTC

On 15/09/2014 07:40, Savageduck wrote:
[]

Post by Savageduck
What 10:1 zoom are you currently using, and with which camera?
The X-E2 has an APS-C sensor, not M4/3.
Reported AF speed is allegedly good, and with an initial frame rate of
7fps for ± 28 frames then a slow down to 3fps. So that would be workable
in action situations on the track, or at an air show.
While they don't currently offer an 18-200mm they have a 50-230mm with
should serve reasonably at both the track and airfield.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xc50_230mmf45_67_ois/>
The
kit lens is an 18-55mm.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/>
However,
the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/>
Add
to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/>
From
what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with.

What I wrote could have been better phrased, that MFT would give even
more size and weight reduction.

I'm currently using Panasonic GX7 with their 10:1 zoom, which weighs
just 265 grams. The Nikon 18-200 mm was 560 grams. Wide-angle I have
the very compact Olympus 9-18 (155 grams), compared to my Tamron10-24
(406 grams). The size those lenses are, they can easily fit into the
space occupied in my gadget bag by the DSLR with the 18-200. I only
need to take one lens round, although as the 9-18 is so small and light
I now mostly carry that round as well.

Having two lens suppliers is nice, but I wish there were more.

But my reservation with mirrorless cameras is the time taken to return
to viewing after a shot is taken. At the moment, as supplied, that's a
second or two, making any rapid action shooting difficult, if not
impossible. I suspect I'm missing a setting which stops the review of
the shot after taking, but it may be a point with the Fuji as well. I
suggest getting a demonstration.

Update: I just discovered that the default is a 2-second review period,
so I just disabled that and it's much better, but still more of a gap
before the viewfinder image reappears than with the DSLR.

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Savageduck

2014-09-15 07:50:00 UTC

On 2014-09-15 07:22:04 +0000, David Taylor

The

Post by Savageduck
kit lens is an 18-55mm.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/>

However,

Post by Savageduck
the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/>

Add

Post by Savageduck
to that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/>
From what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with.

I was looking to lighten my DSLR load, and I figure I can do that with
the X-E2 and easily carry an extra lens or two in a pocket. That seems
better for some travel and/or strolling around shooting.I will keep my
DSLR kit for those times I want to pack the car and go, and have a
wider choice of goodies to work with.

Post by David Taylor
But my reservation with mirrorless cameras is the time taken to return
to viewing after a shot is taken. At the moment, as supplied, that's a
second or two, making any rapid action shooting difficult, if not
impossible. I suspect I'm missing a setting which stops the review of
the shot after taking, but it may be a point with the Fuji as well. I
suggest getting a demonstration.
Update: I just discovered that the default is a 2-second review period,
so I just disabled that and it's much better, but still more of a gap
before the viewfinder image reappears than with the DSLR.

I read that in continuous mode the X-E2 can give you a true 7fps with
no review lag issues. One can only hope that isn't hype.
You might find some of this reading interesting.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/index.html#section01>

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Savageduck

David Taylor

2014-09-15 08:04:05 UTC

On 15/09/2014 08:50, Savageduck wrote:
[]

I read that in continuous mode the X-E2 can give you a true 7fps with no
review lag issues. One can only hope that isn't hype.
You might find some of this reading interesting.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/features/index.html#section01>

Yes, that looks good, but I would still suggest a dealer demonstration
so that you can see what it feels like at 7 fps. I'm not giving up my
DSLR either, but as I don't have a car, I can see its usage out in the
field being rather limited now.

I did also get a 20/1.7 pancake (40 f/3.4 full frame equivalent) for
night-time and "compact camera mode" outings...

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J. Clarke

2014-09-15 09:08:55 UTC

Post by Savageduck
On 2014-09-15 07:22:04 +0000, David Taylor

The

Post by Savageduck
kit lens is an 18-55mm.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/>

However,

Post by Savageduck
the 18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/>

Add

Have you considered a Canon 100D? It's only 50 grams heavier than the
Fuji (still less than half the weight of your 300DS), and being a Canon
DSLR it supports pretty much the full Canon system. Downside from your
viewpoint would be the 4FPS frame rate, I believe.

Savageduck

2014-09-15 10:28:26 UTC

Post by Savageduck
On 2014-09-15 07:22:04 +0000, David Taylor

The

kit

Post by Savageduck
lens is an 18-55mm.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_55mmf28_4_r_lm_ois/>

However,

the

Post by Savageduck
18-135mm looks to be a decent all purpose walk-around lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf18_135mmf35_56_r_lm_ois_wr/>

Add

to

Post by Savageduck
that the 35mm f/1.4 for a fast normal lens.
<http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/>

From

Post by Savageduck
what I can see I can have decent 3 to 4 lens kit to work with.

Naah! If I was going to get another DSLR body eight now it would
probably be a D7100 as all I would need is a body. For now I can
tolerate the weight of the D300S. I look at the X-E2 as an upgrade to
my G11 rather than a DSLR replacement.
Now if I want to lighten my load for any particular reason, I grab my
G11. However, good as it is for a compact, it has its limitations and
the X-E2 removes those limitations. For me anyway.

As much as I like the idea of a FF camera, I don’t need, or desire a
36MP camera I would be quite happy with something in the 16-24MP range.
That more than anything is a reason I am not considering a
D800/D800E/D810. I would love to afford or be able to justify a D4.

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Sandman

2014-09-14 18:17:13 UTC

Post by android

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has
a good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory card.
Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or Android phone
is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

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android

2014-09-14 18:24:43 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has
a good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory card.
Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or Android phone
is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

I'm not biting... ;-)

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http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

Sandman

2014-09-14 18:27:20 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has
a good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory card.
Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or Android phone
is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

I'm not biting... ;-)

I wasn't asking you either.

--
Sandman[.net]

android

2014-09-14 18:30:23 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has
a good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory card.
Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or Android phone
is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

I'm not biting... ;-)

I wasn't asking you either.

Dumdidumdidum... ;-p

--
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

Savageduck

2014-09-14 19:14:12 UTC

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has
a good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory card.
Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or Android phone
is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

Guess.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Sandman

2014-09-15 12:08:21 UTC

Post by android
Oki... You asked for it!
http://tinyurl.com/kl3nu63

Nice try, but no cigar.
That isn't exactly a naked smart phone. It isn't even a phone
camera. It doesn't use the sensor in the phone or shoot to the
camera roll in the phone. It is a hybrid using a phone as a
viewfinder & UI control device with its own sensor and memory
card. Also it can be used without the phone, so the iOS or
Android phone is an accessory for the camera.
BTW: WTF have you shot and shared lately with any camera?

Why so aggressive?

Guess.

Why so evasive+ If I wanted to guess, I would have - I gave you the
opportunity to explain why instead of having guesswork be the judgement of
your behaviour.

--
Sandman[.net]

Sandman

2014-09-14 18:16:22 UTC

Post by Savageduck
For now I will stick with my D300S.
https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been
taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to
you. No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is
there something else bugging you?

BTW: I don't think you would be able to get this sort of image
with any current smart phone camera.

Then you think wrong. Here are some amazing landscape photos taken
<https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=landscape&cm=apple%2Fiphone_5s>

Those are a selection of some very good landscape shots and are
examples of what can be done with an iP5s. However, that excellent
work not withstanding, it is yet to become a replacement for a
dedicated camera. You haven't dumped your D800E or your Sony in
favor or your iP5S have you? My iP5S is my camera of last resort not
my primary.

Uh, I never said it would replace a dedicated DSLR, duck. I said that your
image wasn't very representative why one would stay with the D300S instead
of the D750. The D300S is a very capable camera that can do tons of stuff
that many cameras can't do, especially the iPhone.

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/GcMGinUz

Not sure why you think this image requires a D300S?

It doesn't require a D300S, but shooting motor sport does require a
camera capable of a decent frame rate, good exposure control, lens
selection, and be able to capture moment which are spontaneous and
fleeting on the track. While an iPhone might be able to capture some
of those action shots, it is not going to do it easily. Perhaps you
should spend a day at a track and try to shoot a few cars at high
speed with your iP5S.

Why?

Post by Sandman
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/subajogu/11043798804>

...and that is not much more than a snapshot of questionable
quality.

I.e. it looked a lot like your D300S shot. Again, the D300S certainly can
take motorsport shots that would be impossible using an iPhone (or any
other low-end camera), you just happened to pick one that could have been
taken by a low-end camera.

Post by Savageduck
https://db.tt/XojheULg

Ah, you think to be in reference to the fact that a SLR has access
to zoom lenses. Taking amazing shots of airplanes isn't unique to
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/cjhawkins1961/14854638094>

Nice static shot. Now go to an air show and shoot a few low level,

Again, taking photos with a zoom lens does not require a D300S. Your shot
could have been taken by a D3000.

Post by Savageduck
high speed passes with an iP5S. Most of what you come home with will
be unusable, some will be snapshot souvenirs of the event, and
perhaps there might be one or two magnificent accidental captures.

Sounds like the harvest of any photographer using any camera, really. Or do
you imagine that motorsport photographers using D300S comes home with 100%
amazing shots?

I agree that the chances to capture a great shot is a lot larger with a
SLR, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

Post by Savageduck
While the iPhone 5S (and the soon to be unleashed iP6/iP6+) has a
good camera, there are places it is not going to out perform a
dedicated DSLR or mirrorless.

No one said it will, or does. You pretty much misunderstood the entire
point of the post. :)

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Sandman[.net]

android

2014-09-14 03:07:16 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No need to
"prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something else
bugging you?

There are always bugs outback!

--
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

Sandman

2014-09-14 09:01:26 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No
need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something else
bugging you?

Huh?? Nasty? What do you mean?

--
Sandman[.net]

Savageduck

2014-09-14 13:29:15 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't sell!
Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S. https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you. No
need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something else
bugging you?

Huh?? Nasty? What do you mean?

I meant exacty that, nasty.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Sandman

2014-09-14 18:23:31 UTC

Post by android
We all know that the Duck don't wan't it... So it won't
sell! Nikon can die now!!!

For now I will stick with my D300S.
https://db.tt/R2ENkVC2

He says, and links to an image that could have been
taken by an iPhone :-D
If you want to stay with an older model, all the power to you.
No need to "prove" it to anyone.

Are you feeling particularly nasty today, or is there something
else bugging you?

Huh?? Nasty? What do you mean?

I meant exacty that, nasty.

So you can't explain it, huh? Just repeating the same word isn't really
helping me understand what you meant by it. So I'll file this under "Uh, I
dunno", then :)

--
Sandman[.net]

android

2014-09-14 03:05:51 UTC